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Old Aug 16, 2011, 04:46 PM // 16:46   #101
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check on page 5 at the bottom. apparently no one ever seen that staff before...and i cant find it on ANY of my accounts. i could have sold it for who knows how much...
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Old Aug 16, 2011, 07:33 PM // 19:33   #102
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It was probably an older version of the same quest-reward.. meaning it might fetch a couple K (like the 5-7 Long Sword with the crystalline skin I've seen). Nothing extremely amazing.
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Old Aug 16, 2011, 07:37 PM // 19:37   #103
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Speaking of rare staff skins--what was the last time someone saw a 20 20 fire dragon?

I've been guruing this diligently, even PMed a couple people, and apparently the last one around here was like 2009.

Are they just impossible to find?
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Old Aug 16, 2011, 08:21 PM // 20:21   #104
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Speaking of rare staff skins--what was the last time someone saw a 20 20 fire dragon?

I've been guruing this diligently, even PMed a couple people, and apparently the last one around here was like 2009.

Are they just impossible to find?

"Nothing" is impossible to find. I say "nothing" because obviously some things are, but that thing is obviously in existence and is likely around. Take, for example, my 3.5 year hunt for r8 15^50 jittes. I discovered a total of 4 ( on active accounts! and not custo'd). 1 part of a set, not trading, 2 simply refused to sell, and a 4th that i had seen change hands but couldn't find out where to. I gave up. Then 3 turned up out of nowhere in kamadan.

Moral of the story. Shit is stupid, weapons that are extremely rare, and or sought after, eventually turn up.

P.S. Dragons> all in rarity. Raven>all in awesomeness.
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Old Aug 16, 2011, 09:40 PM // 21:40   #105
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do req8+5energy max dmg salient daggers and sai excist? never seen any before(last ones I need to find for full collection)
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Old Aug 16, 2011, 10:35 PM // 22:35   #106
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Raven>all in awesomeness.
quote for truth.

Now ofc this would be a pointless post if I didn't have something to disagree with! ( especially as disagreeing seems to be the main topic of this thread)

So here it goes: Every foe that drops dragon staves also drops plat and bo.
personal experience with the drop scales of dragondroppers (<- self made words ftw) Tells me that from chests, dragon staff drops the most, but from farming bo staff drops the most. This also means that I believe plat staff is the rarest of these 3 (not rarest of all, explanation below). And yes, I do believe that chest loot scales do not necessarily reflect those gained from farming.

However the bo staff also drops max from quite some HM foes on starter island, which makes em more common than the others.

So overall: Plat>dragon>bo. (Note I am not in any way saying that this is correct, its just how I believe it is)


Disagreement No. 2: In what universe is the uninscr orrish staff 'semi rare'.
Seriously a tier 6 should be made just for this staff, its so incredibly incredibly rare its just mindblowing. Out of all my years gw, over 15K proph chests I got a total of 1 (!) orrish staves, and it dropped from killing a old ascalon gargoyle in HM. Sure the chances of getting it 20/20 might be higher than those of plat/dragon/bo because its a single attrib staff. But still when you look solely at the chances of getting one dropped, its definitely the rarest of all.

[rant] Its all a big conspiracy of those canthan skin lovers with their tiranny of bo,dragon and plat . But it ends here! because the rarest(orrish) is proph and the most awesome(raven) is proph as well! [/rant]

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Old Aug 17, 2011, 03:05 AM // 03:05   #107
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quote for truth.

Now ofc this would be a pointless post if I didn't have something to disagree with! ( especially as disagreeing seems to be the main topic of this thread)

So here it goes: Every foe that drops dragon staves also drops plat and bo.
personal experience with the drop scales of dragondroppers (<- self made words ftw) Tells me that from chests, dragon staff drops the most, but from farming bo staff drops the most. This also means that I believe plat staff is the rarest of these 3 (not rarest of all, explanation below). And yes, I do believe that chest loot scales do not necessarily reflect those gained from farming.

However the bo staff also drops max from quite some HM foes on starter items, which makes em more common than the others.

So overall: Plat>dragon>bo. (Note I am not in any way saying that this is correct, its just how I believe it is)


Disagreement No. 2: In what universe is the uninscr orrish staff 'semi rare'.
Seriously a tier 6 should be made just for this staff, its so incredibly incredibly rare its just mindblowing. Out of all my years gw, over 15K proph chests I got a total of 1 (!) orrish staves, and it dropped from killing a old ascalon gargoyle in HM. Sure the chances of getting it 20/20 might be higher than those of plat/dragon/bo because its a single attrib staff. But still when you look solely at the chances of getting one dropped, its definitely the rarest of all.

[rant] Its all a big conspiracy of those canthan skin lovers with their tiranny of bo,dragon and plat . But it ends here! because the rarest(orrish) is proph and the most awesome(raven) is proph as well! [/rant]
orrish staff definitely, forgot about that one, so rare indeed.
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Old Aug 17, 2011, 04:37 AM // 04:37   #108
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/agree on the orrish staff. Very hard to find a good non-insc one.

Once upon a time, I bought a req 10 20/10 pre-nerf orrish staff. Gave it to my bro. Maybe he'll be so kind as to post it for us.
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Old Aug 17, 2011, 10:48 AM // 10:48   #109
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I know someone that has a max r8 10/10 orrish..... they used to be like dead bows etc and were obscenely rare. Especially max... I bought a gold non-max 10/9 one long ago for 50k and it had a lot of bids on it. I think I got it from Cap if I remember correctly...


and if you are going to bring up stuff like that - honestly most any staff in a true old school 20/20 form is quite rare (dual gold text) and then r8 20/20s.....


Also I have seen one pair of r8 +5e Salient Daggers - someone has a complete set of them - but I asked around for years and never found another set.....
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Old Aug 17, 2011, 11:10 AM // 11:10   #110
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/agree on the orrish staff. Very hard to find a good non-insc one.

Once upon a time, I bought a req 10 20/10 pre-nerf orrish staff. Gave it to my bro. Maybe he'll be so kind as to post it for us.
Here, with my other nice (but not so old) Orrish Earth Staff:



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Old Aug 17, 2011, 12:56 PM // 12:56   #111
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I bought a gold non-max 10/9 one long ago for 50k and it had a lot of bids on it. I think I got it from Cap if I remember correctly...
I'm not sure you if you mean me or Capitalist. I don't remember having a non-max 10/9 orrish. I do remember having a req 12 8/8 pre-nerf orrish that I sold to The Herbalizer long ago. Here's the PC thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/8....html?t=105897. IIRC, I did a little better than my friendly neighborhood PCer thought I would (although I'd probably pay twice as much to have the staff back now):P
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Old Aug 17, 2011, 03:02 PM // 15:02   #112
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I had a req12 10/10 Orrish. God knows what happened to that.
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Old Aug 17, 2011, 03:54 PM // 15:54   #113
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It was me. Is the staff still around?
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Old Aug 17, 2011, 05:34 PM // 17:34   #114
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I feel like a huge noob, you guys are referring to Earth Staff with obsidian skin, uninsc, yes?... Please say yes, or I will feel so inferior to all things. :'(
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Old Aug 17, 2011, 05:42 PM // 17:42   #115
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hahaha yeah, carnage, orrish = obsidian
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Old Aug 17, 2011, 05:49 PM // 17:49   #116
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Relief... lol. So much relief. Thank you sir.
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Old Aug 19, 2011, 01:09 PM // 13:09   #117
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Just want to know - how rare are 20/20 Dead Staffs?
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Old Aug 19, 2011, 01:46 PM // 13:46   #118
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how about fire staff with dead staff skin
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Old Aug 19, 2011, 02:23 PM // 14:23   #119
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It's a core skin. They come in all req I believe.

I've got a few 20/20 dead staffs. Didn't cost a great deal when I brought them so can't imagine they're worth much now.
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Old Aug 19, 2011, 04:03 PM // 16:03   #120
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It's a core skin. They come in all req I believe.

I've got a few 20/20 dead staffs. Didn't cost a great deal when I brought them so can't imagine they're worth much now.
Nah, the req fire dead staff no longer drops. If you have one of those 20/20 you're looking at formidable amount of ecto.
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